Yup.

If you dont use this deployable you are accepting a 5% nerf to income or you plant one which risks 20% of the income for a *potential* 5% bonus... Unless some jerkbag comes and steals from it in an interceptor. Which they will.

Whoops sorry couldn't post again there for a second because my gang was trying to lock a maladiction that has a 1.9 align/warp speed making it entirely untouchable due to 1 second server ticks.

Apparently stuffing sebos in a stilleto till it locks a pod in a second isn't enough.

God yeah your right, we should probably just let the game become so broken no one enjoys playing it, I mean it's only like two point five years till star citizen comes out. I say we get remote doomsdays back too.

"Move back" implies I've ever spent significant time in empire.

Why do that when I can just send an alt to highsec and continue to shoot at unimportant recruiting alliance full of pubbie scrublords like yourself?

It's not unfair, it's broken. There's a difference. A hotdrop is generally "Unfair" to the recipient of a hotdrop. But it's not broken, it has a counter, and it has inherent risks and rewards. I realize you are dumb so you may not understand the inherent "Risk vs Reward" tenant that is the entire basis for this game and I'd spell it out but I'm honestly pretty lazy.

Honestly between uncatchable interceptors and this stupid thing, i can't see any real reason to do any moneymaking in null. I mean running an anom right now nets me about 60-70m/h. Meanwhile I can go run an incursion for 100m/h+ and the only risk is hating myself. I already do that.

Because we'd kill everybody. ...which now that I think about it isn't a bad idea. Yeah, let's implement this, nerf null, make the game more imbalanced, **** off nullsec players, force them(all of them) to make their isk in highsec, except we awox, gank, pillage, steal and destroy everyone.. The more I think about it, the more I like it.

No I'm calling you illiterate because I wasn't talking about the ESS when you engaged me, I was making a comment on the inability to secure any space no matter how much effort is due to the current meta fast align kiting interceptors have added, I have clearly and overtly stated this directly at least once, yet you still bring the ESS up as if it was winning you the argument. But please talk about he counters to the ESS again because the next time it will totally be what I was talking about when you first quoted me and started this idiot discussion.

including the LP? debatable, but only for the very top end. certainly by no means average.
they can make ~150m/hour in pure isk alone, though.

hq's certainly, that's what most communities run these days.

i quite frankly would rather you all buggered off and stayed in null, less competition for fleet spots in high sec incursions. *shrug* but, that doesn't stop the ESS being terrible and the 5% bounty nerf being so far unjustified.

3.3T or so. I'm "up there" perhaps but I'm sure plenty of people have more. I have a lot of fun with it all, at least.

CCP must have different numbers than yourself.

There is a finite number of systems that allow more than 1 person to rat effectively at a time.

Hilariously in my system, the ports spawn with 4x 1.2m bounty rats in military 1, and in military 2 (which is an entirely reliable event), and then at military 3 it changes over to almost always spawning the alternate spawn that has only 2 500k BS in the last spawn and has 2 waves of multiple elite frigates out of 4 waves total, AND is harder to tank. So in military 2, I get the necessary 2 ports to for 1 person to run 60m/hr, but in military 3, I don't, I have to run the 45m/hr forlorn rally point and I think the forlorn den is the best to go with it, because of how badly the ports go sour. (I brought a hyperion out here specifically to void the ports, but an hour of voiding the ports puts the system into military 3, meaning I just wasted a great deal of effort hauling a ship that is basically useless now unless I stop ratting for days).

In military 4 I get the 2 hubs necessary for 1 person to run 60m hour, and in military 5, I probably have enough for 2 people to rat because there are 3 hubs - but military 5 probably requires 3 people ratting to actually hit it. which the system doesn't offer unless they aren't in the same TZ.

Note that I easily blitz 60m/hr with a dominix running for FIO (which just has a basic gallente navy LP store), and I can blitz more than 100m/hr for sisters with a dominix. I don't need a billion isk in the ihub, I don't need to make a freighter run and 4 JF runs to set it up, I don't need to fuel a pos, and I don't need to warp into the pos and select a PVP ship everytime someone enters the system.

ie TL;DR dominion isk making system is oriented towards an entirely different organisational structure than the dominion strategic system is, hence all the bitching, and hence the obvious observation that some 10 regions are now almost entirely populated by the renters who have organisations more suited to actually extracting some value out of the terrible flyover territory that makes up most of null.

The point is I don't believe you have any sound basis for estimating the average nullbears income.

The other point is, the stupid thing is only useful when there are so many characters in a system that one of them can pooshbutton anyway becaues there are no anomolies left for it to rat.

Which is great for the 200 systems where that might be true, and not at all great for the 2700 systems where it isn't. If the whole idea was to put more players in the 2700 systems that people flyover with interceptors on their way to patrol the 3 systems in each region that people do actually rat in numbers in where they might get a small gang fight, then its a terrible idea, because its making those 2700 systems even less attractive.

oh and I nullbear just fine, but the thing that makes renting a system valuable (the signatures) are supplied in sufficient quantities for 1 player - ie yes I can make equivalent isk to running sisters here no drama, but I can't recruit anyone without ****ing it up.

I get sufficient ded signatures to keep me occupied, and for me to not care about either the rent or the income from anomolies, and obviously I'd prefer do the maze and reinvig over yet another bloody serpentis phi.

The reason I do anomolies is to keep the entrapment arrays running. However it is not my goal to be a solo pilot forever, and I'd like to recruit this corp up to being mixed bear, respond to local threats and short range roaming group. I don't have a great deal of interest in structure shoots. Which is also why I live in Vale, and I didn't move to branch when branch opened up (because that is in the middle of a blue ocean, where as Vale borders neuts and reds). Syndicate is no place to start, you need to have the group ready before you try there imo (ie its somewhere i might go with 20 people who already have fat wallets and already know how to work together - its a terrible place to be a bear since nothing automatically respawns).

If I had 20 people, we'd literally need to take 20 systems worth of combat sigs to all get my current income level, which is impossible, so the moment I start caring about the anomolies is the moment I take off my solo nullbear hat, and I put on my CEO hat. I would actually have trouble paying the rent merely by divvying up my signature income amongst a half dozen pilots as I would not likely be able to extract sufficient tax from them, so literally this phase of my life is save isk for a future phase where my corp itself might not be profitable.

Not only that, I've observed all of those issues rise in other PBLRD corps, to the extent of even breaking some.

I can't see on fthe face of it, how this module is intended to foster increases in small corp numbers or growth amongst small corps, and hence formation of small gang combat units, in fact it seems to yet again hurt the null systems that might create such.

Except that Margaret Thatcher has the laudible attribute of being dead, and thus no longer able to pollute any reasonable discussion, unlike Infinity.

Margaret Thatcher was a real life scumbag.

Its pretty close to fact, sociopathic people that harm the poor to benefit the already well off while trying to pass it off as something to benefit the poor fit the bill.

Whats wrong with dead space(wo)men? They just respawn in their stations and some people like to collect corpses. You're trying to drag this into RL where it does not belong.

I still would like to see a CCP breakdown of the incoming bounties versus total income by sec area, so we can see if the ESS really does belong in nullsec.

So you agree then this ESS is garbage in its current form and that if it remains as is it should be a highsec only thing?

I've read the thread unlike some people that have spewed curse words and become incredibly upset at the thought of space(wo)men dieing. I have to post so the highsec people can understand its all about the target audience.

Its right here:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4120096#post4120096

It is very shameful to edit away your badposting.

The ESS was supposed to promote conflict too but its not going to because its not worth deploying.

Oh I don't care about them wishing me dead. They don't like me simply because I'm not afraid to expose the truth to everyone whereas they'd like the myth that null is dead and suffering in comparisons to high sec alive and well.

It benefits them when it comes to their carefully selected CSM stooges providing guidance to CCP on the next buff of null and the latest nerf of high.